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Hello from your friendly neighborhood coder

Hello everyone,

For those who don't know me yet, I go by Zersiax, and I am Starmourn's coder as of this year's August.
Over the last month or so, I've been running around Starmourn, figuring out where we're at and where we're going. I've been making changes, fixes and alterations to various things already, and I intend to make Starmourn the absolute best it can be going forward.
Classleads are currently on their way, we're working hard on making captaincy experience gaining more fun and fair, there's supercool new content coming, pretty much every system in the game has improvements planned. There couldn't be a better time to jump back in if you've been away for a while.
Blatant foreshadowing and tooting horns aside, I want people here on the form to know that I'm around as of today, I'm intending to take feedback we receive on the forums seriously and , together with the discord, bug system and ideas system, it will be taken into account when deciding on what to work on next. Let's make Starmourn the best thing since kithblade-sliced bread.

-Zersiax

zersiax

Re: Feedback on current systems

I'm surprised to say that I agree with all 10 of those points, including that faction (and even dynasty) mechanical support should be high priority. There's some low hanging fruit to be had that would help a lot. Not all 10 of those points raised by Azlyn are the lowest hanging out there, but many of them seem reasonably doable relatively quickly. Of course, I'm speculating -- I am merely Steve. Anyway, to add to Azlyn's comments:

More areas would really help existing players stick with the game while the staff takes the time it needs for expanding the game. I think I'd look at expanding levels 1-30 and level 75 possibilities for leveling and bashing, respectively. Shoot, I'd get excited, as a player, to offer some writing to help with creating new zones or expanding existing ones. Maybe a contest? I don't know whether that's feasible, but it's asking a lot of a busy team.

To elaborate on factional/dynastic mechanics to add, one approach to these changes that would help Song (and presumably SH and CA, too) would be to allow factions to more directly interact with a lot of game systems rather than having to rely on players to serve as proxies for the factions. Examples: allow the factions to have their own trade terminal shops, actually manage taxes on foreign refineries and autofactories, add similar controls to factional trade terminals, issue market orders and offers, and be able to exclude other factions from things like trade terminal shops and market orders/offers.

For the record here (I've stated this plenty of times elsewhere), I'd add that the ship system should really get a balance pass -- there's cannon 1, massive cannon 1, massive cannon 3, and skipdrive (and weapon damage shipmod, to a lesser extent). That, to me, appears to be low-hanging fruit for improving the game. Similarly, porting the harvest drone code over to a ship mod and lowering the captaincy ability for it to pretty low seems like a great accessibility move and similarly relatively low hanging fruit.

Also, classleads. Not much of that is low hanging fruit, but some of it is.

Steve

Feedback on current systems

Let me get off the sideline and hop on the soap box real quick (does Gen Z even know what this means??). I, like many people, recognize the potential for Starmourn and want the game to succeed. On Discord or elsewhere, I generally see a lot of community comments asking for "more content", or wanting classleads, or pitching Spacedudebob's idea for a new feature. I believe that all of these things are important and valid, but for a game that is still in beta with limited development resources, I would really recommend identifying the broad-reaching problems that have smaller, manageable fixes. This should be of equal or even more importance to adding new large features/systems, which can be longer-term projects. I just feel like there are many systems already within Starmourn that go underutilized if not for very minor, repairable issues, or there are small things that could be implemented to better enable existing activities.

To that end, I'm consolidating my thoughts on, most generally, relatively simple changes, and particularly those which impact community systems (i.e., not just one skill class or interest group). I believe these are either widely agreed upon, have been previously promised to be implemented, or some combination thereof. Of course I acknowledge that this is through my own biased lens, so I'd encourage folks to consider adding other considerations to this thread for things you may care about, like if there's some barrier to item-designing/crafting. I also hope that all of this is taken in a constructive context, not as any particular criticism, since I think we all recognize the challenges in building this game up.

1. Increase the demand to participate in the economy system by introducing additional commodity/supply sinks and better incentivizing ship-based activities. Currently you can predominantly craft ship supplies and put them on the market, and really just hope that someone is grinding Captaincy or cosmpiercers so you can turn a profit. I'd really like to see expanded uses for the commodities. Mining/manufacturing is a huge Starmourn system that has great potential, but is sadly neglected because there is no great driving motivation to participate. The other barriers to economy participation have been debated, but I think there have been a lot of positive changes implemented. Fundamentally I just don't think we can correctly assess the issues without taking the first step to incentivize participation.

2. Balance the cosmpiercer/cache systems - not a total rework, but small fixes to things like power costs and capture duration - so as to increase ship activity and encourage viable conflict. I think there are a slew of reasons why conflict is stifled right now that deserves its own thread, but as cynical as this is, I don't want to unpack the problems/solutions without some acknowledgement that the devs are willing to address this. Again, I think that we can get to a better place with small, not sweeping changes, but it becomes discouraging when it feels like shouting into a vacuum. For example, please, please address the issue of ship supply loss in space combat - i.e., dropping tens of thousands of marks worth of batteries that get stolen when you blow up. I'm pretty sure people have outright quit the game over this one, and it's been kicked down the road a long time.

3. This one might be abstract, but factions just feel very hollow due to shallow faction mechanics. I think the Starmourn lore and universe has such great potential, but when it comes to enabling players to impact the game, this is where I really lose a sense of purpose and a motivation to log in. We should aspire to enable the playerbase to engage with one another, either in conflict, in collaboration, or in creativity. I really believe that faction or even dynasty mechanics need to be the dev priority, so that we have a reason to care about claiming cosmpiercers, amassing riches, flexing cultural supremacy, waging war, or whatever other myriad themes that players pursue in their gameplay. As it stands, I really don't feel inspired to achieve anything, because I don't see a tangible path in working towards something. Roleplay only gets you so far, and I think a lot of people just crave some mechanics to facilitate ways that we can operate within the world and its player organizations. So, simpler solutions could be intertwined with some of the other issues I listed here - economic incentives, conflict, etc. - which can be supported by factions, and hopefully future implementations like colonization would contribute further. I'd also love things like quest arcs to support faction conflict and roleplay, but that's certainly not a quick fix.

4. Address the issue of insufficient end-game bashing availability - i.e., not enough level 75 areas to sustain even this very small playerbase. Current availability only accommodates 3 active bashers at a time: one each in Ixsei, Usum, and Prugita, by my experience. This is not an exaggeration. Other areas have low spawn rates and/or unsustainable or unfun mechanics. There is an unbelievably easy fix in increasing spawn rates; or, not easy, but building new areas could be a fun project for intrepid Storytellers. But I would also suggest looking at the DPS creep that was introduced by the talents system, particularly with critical hits and virtually no down-time from healing, which means that we may just be bashing too quickly/easily right now.

5. Similar and probably can be combined with the above: create a sustainable group-bashing activity. Xenoslayers/boss fighting was a great idea, but SM would further benefit from viable, more traditional group bashing - i.e., grab your buddies and some lowbies, and knock the doors down. There are so many possible solutions to this, and part of it is probably linked to the above - i.e., there's just no bashing area that sustains more than one person within it at a time before you stand around waiting for respawns. But for more ambitious or fun solutions, I would suggest taking a look at the wilderness mechanic, as it has the most potential and is one of the least utilized (poor rewards, no motivation, but a whole lot of mechanics already developed for it). Wilderness needs some love.

6. Create a group ship activity. Conceivably CPs would fill this niche in part if it was a viable mechanic, but there will always be a barrier to participate for people who don't like conflict. Here I'm thinking more of a ship-based PVE activity, like a super incursion that spawns many more baddies than one person can handle. I think a rare, high-risk high-reward incursion could be cool, and virtually all the mechanics already exist to support something like this.

7. Consider ways to more regularly implement special events like "double xp" or bashing competitions (great hunts, weekly competitions, double xp days, something). This will help inject some excitement versus just another day in SM, and I'm guessing this is literally just a switch you flip on.

8. We talked about this in one of the monthly discussions, but please provide a counter to bounties - e.g., allowing bounties to be transferred - as well as removing the bounty if the bounty hunter is beaten. Tangentially, I'd also love to pitch ideas for new hacking objectives, many of which wouldn't take many resources to implement, to further explore hacking conflict avenues.

9. It must be stupidly annoying that I keep asking for this, but please create a means for players to initiate arena events. Again, I think the best solution is like the Lusternia system: say, 5 people online have to join the queue, and then the event auto-initiates. I imagine they'd be willing to share their code for this, even. The entire PK scene wants this.

10. I waffled on including this, but please just take a look at fixing poker. I think this is the only leisurely game we have, and it's so close to being viable. It probably just needs an hour of love to squash the bugs from when it got imported.

If the devs would like to explore any of the issues above or suggestions on solutions, I'd be happy to provide further thoughts. A lot of these probably deserve their own thread, but I don't want to chase something that the community doesn't care about or that the devs won't support. Maybe we can figure out some brainstorming priorities, like "This month we want to work on X - give us thoughts and ideas." And again, I don't want to detract from any accomplishments or hard work that folks are putting into the game - we appreciate it! - but rather just wanted to offer my feedback and hopefully give some focus to a path forward. In any case, thanks for the consideration.

Azlyn

Events 15

Just wanted to thank everyone who attended the event today! And a special thanks to the storytellers and staff who made the whole thing work behind the scenes.

I hope you all had fun! I know I did. And now some people are trying to figure out how to 'rescue' Fl..i//[ERROR: FILE NOT FOUND]p --//#*%%%- ia, and you are all so sweet

Have fun with it!

Flipilaria

Re: Scoundrel Combat fixes

Speaking with some people on the discord about ways to make sensory more in line with muscular, even with these changes will still probably need a bit more but here's what I could come up with so far.

Blind becomes relevant if it stops people from blocking your movement.

Deaf becomes relevant if it stops all chatter on the mindsim Tells/crew/clans/all

evasion becomes a flat number damage reduction applies to all hits, instead of what it is, and dizzy makes enemy accuracy go down aka your evasion/flat damage reduction go up. Accuracy will never make you miss a hit, but will decrease the amount of damage you do, everyone starts at 100% accuracy, its reduced by enemy evasion and stacks of dizzy.

Soza

Re: Scoundrel Combat fixes

Bloop. I'm putting down the product of conversation with the most active scoundrels and the best scoundrels historically -- there's been a LOT of talk over the past six months about what to do and how to get scoundrel into a better place. The class is awesome, but, speaking honestly, it's got quite a lot issues, some of which really need to be addressed soon, and most of which should be addressed at some point.

A top priority for pvp should be to get sensory, mind, and internal afflictions on par with muscular, somehow. I'll let someone else, like Soza, explain that.

For scoundrel specifically, here goes my attempt to capture the best ideas we've had, and agreed to them being the best (with ambush being thrown in there as the product of = conversations with past experts):

Buff encroachment. Encroachment has to pull enemies out of cover right away. It's getting cured too quickly against most opponents who set their WW priorities to afflictions first, meaning we keep landing it, they may not be pushed out of cover for a while. If scoundrel can't control cover with encroachment, a ton of our abilities just don't work. Some of the reasons they don't work are clearly intended, and others... who knows?
Replace staggering in weakening ammo. For whatever reason, staggering is no longer proccing staggering. Perhaps this was a "bug" that was fixed, but scoundrel needs something to replace staggering now that we have no way to interact with staggering. One scoundrel, possibly the most skilled we've seen, called losing this "the biggest scoundrel nerf in history." It really hurts, even if it wasn't utilized often. So! Enter what I've been affectionately calling "baby haemotoxin," a poison that reduces health regeneration and healing by 20%. Note that real haemotoxin is a xenoslayer mob ability and it's pretty handy. Without having that balance advantage that staggering provided, we need something else to help us keep up. Forcing an enemy to heal less efficiently or more often, however you look at it, will do the trick nicely.
Buff rapidfire. Rapidfire is essential for scoundrel to keep up in pvp, but it really needs to not be able to deal the same affliction twice in one attack. It's OK if the target already has one or both of the afflictions, but it really needs to land separate afflictions every time. With staggering no longer doing its job, there's no possible upshot for rapidfire not checking for what it's shooting. PVE is unaffected by this change, but we gain some consistency and lose a little less ground based on a roll of the dice in pvp.
QOL change plus buff to shoulderroll. Shoulderroll targets as described above (SHOULDERROLL PLAYER will pick the correct cover) but also afflicts winded upon delivery, like a suckerpunch. Kerpow! Winded is too hard to land, making suckerpunch useless currently. Also, winded is just a handy thing for us.
Buff ambush. Ambush is fine in pve, though its conditions for use feel inconsistent. More importantly, ambush in pvp is a very, very suboptimal way to actually ambush someone. 2.5s of balance, deals more damage than crackshot, deals same subsystem damage as crackshot per balance time, but has to be the first attack. Compare that with GUN VIGILANT, which attacks without balance for something like crackshot. Other parts of scoundrel's kit -- namely TRIPWIRE and HIDE -- strongly, strongly incentivize setting up and bunkering. There's no reason not to use vigilant instead of ambush for an ambush. Solution: make ambush take 1s of balance to reflect its fast-shooting flavor, plus change the conditions for shooting it so that each mob has its own timer instead of a timer for the scoundrel (or something similar so that you can ambush a new target right away), plus make it so that vigilant does not preclude ambushing by putting into combat with that target. This makes scoundrel pve a little better and definitely more consistent while allowing ambush to have a chance to play in pvp -- and even gives us a little bit more of a chance on chase. We're terrible at chasing enemies.

Two IEDs that really need some love because they've been nerfed to being a waste of time, and we really need them to not suck:

Pusher
Sleeper

Gunslinging abilities that underperform:

Detonate, because we have some issues with hiding bombs and because detonate is random
Impairing ammo, because encroachment isn't doing its job efficiently enough and because mind afflictions are not strong enough and because we have to resort to damage kill, which isn't really supported all that well in scoundrel's kit
Disrupting ammo -- sensory's bad
Arcing, because EM's payoff (discharge or a failed mend) isn't good enough to justify that we lose enough damage that people can set WW priorities to ignore our now miniscule health damage
Infusing, because we don't have time for that
Amplifying, because same. They're not bad, we just don't have time.
Quickload -- meh
Backflip, which would be awesome if we could actually use it to get away. The problem is that we backflip and then stand there waiting for balance long enough that our enemies always walk up and keep hitting us, meaning we've wasted a reload. The only thing good about backflip is that it gets us out of quicksand, which is probably unintended.
Gauge. This ability should be awesome, but it's got a 3.5s balance cost. Reducing its balance cost to less than crackshot would get it close to where it needs to be because, right now, the main use of it is to GAUGE, LEAVE COVER and RAPIDFIRE, HAYMAKER to stack afflictions -- assuming you don't roll poorly and get redundant afflictions. It's rare that this is desirable, period, because we want to go for an internal kill, not a health kill, typically.
Cavein. Doesn't do enough damage for an ability that doesn't do anything but damage. It doesn't even set up airstrike.
Bulletguard. It just isn't that practical.

Guile abilities that underperform:

Kneecap, because it could be a PIECE whip. I kid, though a lot of new players would rather see the flavor of a pistol whip. It's OK that kneecap is weak because pointblank is pretty strong, and forcing a scoundrel to use a reload to interrupt should be rewarded. Buffing kneecap would be fine, or changing it to a pistol whip.
Suckerpunch because it's a reload and it's too hard to get winded on the target
gritblast because it's a reload and is so much worse than fling -- as an aoe, it underperforms compared to trigger, which has a short cooldown. Trigger isn't a reload. This one's just bad, though I like the flavor (but why is it a reload? our jetpack abilities ought to be a lot cooler, and why isn't backflip a jetpack ability?)
Pummel. It's awful. You can WW REGEN while being pummeled and be completely fine, even gaining subsystem health while being pummeled.
Incite appears to fail pretty often now, which is lame (someone please speak into this one, I haven't tested it in depth in a while). It's really strong, but there are ways to make it weaker without making it random, such as reducing enemy damage on hit.
Incite -- cool, but disappointing because it fails and because we don't get the benefit. Why not have something even cooler like, you know, a stim grenade that does ??? for everyone around?
Strangle UGH. Why do we have two abilities that are both bad and so similar? I'm talking about pummel and strangle. One of these could scale with mind damage, and one of them could scale with sensory or total subsystem damage.
Illegalmods. Its effect just isn't that useful. Nobody else has to worry about limited flight, but we spend an ability on making our limited flight last longer? It's got a tremendously long duration and I'm not sure the jetpack abilities even use the jetpack power. Not that I'm going to test it; the jetpack abilities other than jetwash are not good.
Dash is redundant with a generic ability in exploration.
Airstrike, as our max guile ability, has: a 5 min cooldown; is channeled and we can't do anything else during it; doesn't work indoors; and just does damage. If cavein would set it up indoors, that'd be nice. We just don't get to use it often because of indoor restriction. As an odd idea, we could have it do something fancy like generate new debris cover. I'm not positive what this ability needs, but it's not getting used because it's easy to interrupt and doesn't work indoors.
Bugs really could stand to be rolled into one ability. They're limited in usefulness and it stinks to have to use three of our abilities in guile to make them decent.

Improvisation abilities that underperform:

bandoliers. Bandoliers in general. Why do we have to create bombs? Why do we have to track the number? Can't we just be like other classes that simply use their abilities? Using a bandolier means we lose our bombs on class swap (alleviated a lot by construct now doing 50 each, which was a great bandaid, by the way, so thank you). Having a bandolier means we lose both the back item slot and the... whatever bandolier goes into just because we're scoundrels (clothing slots). That said, this isn't as important, frankly.
Sweep
Hide. It's slow. Making it faster would be great.
Tripwire. It's slow. Making it faster, somehow, would be great.
Disarm. I don't think I've ever disarmed a bomb.
Stickybomb. It has its uses, but can we talk about not having it be a reload ability or something? The only reason we'd use this over fling, 99.99% of the time, is that encroachment isn't getting someone out of cover and so our fling might not work.
Wiring. With sleeper and pusher not doing much, wiring doesn't ever keep up with shrapnel. Why not have some bombs, I dunno, be better with wiring?
Timer. I mess around with this occasionally, but it's just a gimmick. Giving up shrapnel is almost always a loss. Almost always, in both pve and pvp.
Blinder, because it's random which of blind or deaf you afflict and because neither of these afflictions is all that good. Afflicting both, every time, may bring blinder in the realm of "I might use that to set up a haymaker," occasionally. Sensory in general is one of the weakest parts of this game.
Pusher. I'm saying it again here because it's unreliable. The Bushraki artifact works against its forced movement. I think people can follow around with it. There's just a lot wrong with this thing, but the main problem is that it's inconsistent.
Zapper. Ripper's recent buff means zapper's just a little bit behind in damage against bots. For an EM flavored ripper, that means it's just worse than ripper. Buffing its damage or providing some kind of other benefit against bots that results in a tangible improvement would fix this one. EM in general isn't where it should be, though. The payoff isn't good enough against players.
Shrieker, because... honestly, I don't remember exactly what this one does. If our mind route had a clearer end goal, such as making pummel or strangle scale with mind damage, then we're in business, probably.
Choker -- low damage over time, doesn't have any other benefits. Just not good enough, and that its solely damage dealing, and slowly, means it has no place in pvp.
Distorter. It's a shame that our max level ability just doesn't cut it. I think this is more of a function of mind afflictions, generally, underperforming. Would I rather use this or shrieker in a world with better mind afflictions? I don't know, but they're competing with one another unless their durations are pretty generous.

There's yet more to say, but that's what I wanted to throw down now. I love this class and SM. I wouldn't bother commenting if I didn't believe in the product and the team, so now I'd like to say, again: thanks, all, for making SM.

Steve

Re: Scoundrel Combat fixes

Pusher

Pusher -> QOL improvement for Pusher would be that it doesn't trigger the FOLLOW mechanic and truly throws everyone in the room in random directions. Currently in a piercer/cache if you throw a pusher at a group ONE person will be pushed and all the others will just follow them to their new room.

Also pusher should throw from room on frozen ground. It's a bomb and frozen ground isn't glue. Currently it just triggers movement and people either leave or fall over.

Jaidyn

Re: Scoundrel Combat fixes

Replace staggering in weakening ammo. For whatever reason, staggering is no longer proccing staggering. Perhaps this was a "bug" that was fixed, but scoundrel needs something to replace staggering now that we have no way to interact with staggering. One scoundrel, possibly the most skilled we've seen, called losing this "the biggest scoundrel nerf in history." It really hurts, even if it wasn't utilized often. So! Enter what I've been affectionately calling "baby haemotoxin," a poison that reduces health regeneration and healing by 20%. Note that real haemotoxin is a xenoslayer mob ability and it's pretty handy. Without having that balance advantage that staggering provided, we need something else to help us keep up. Forcing an enemy to heal less efficiently or more often, however you look at it, will do the trick nicely.

Name:           Haemotoxin
Description:    Health regeneration and healing is reduced by 50%.
Type:           Curable affliction
Subsystem:      Internal
Subsys Damage:  100
Stacking:       No
Duration:       10.00s

OPTION 1: That's current form. This is my proposition to replace staggering.

Name:           Haemotoxin
Description:    Health regeneration and healing is reduced by 20%.
Type:           Curable affliction
Subsystem:      Internal
Subsys Damage:  200
Stacking:       No
Duration:       10.00s

Normal system damage and reduces the healing from 50% to 20%. At least this way someone with the class_heal_5 artifact still looses 4%. And it isn't OP for a normal person. Allows Scoundrel to pressure HP slightly.

OPTION 2: Return the balance knock back effect to staggering through Gunslinging attacks hitting arms.

Jaidyn

Re: Scoundrel Combat fixes

As mentioned by Steve, Shrieker and Distorter both currently seem useless with the kit given to scoundrel, though they are great if they gain a new small portion of code that make them uncurable by wet wiring for their duration. Scoundrel is missing a finisher though as we only have one and three main subsystems to do.

Strangle: you place your hands around an enemys neck choking the life out of them. Requirements: enemy be prone, bound for x seconds, have distraction and sluggish.

Small change to bind to have its duration based off either mind or internal whichever is lower at the same rate (currently it doesn't scale to anything except internal)

This would give scoundrel their 2nd kill route, fix a ton of small things and give scoundrels variability.

Soza

Scoundrel Combat fixes

Now that we have a new coder just wanted to get a plan together for possible fixes in the future. Welcome Zersiax! And @Eukelade told us to not just discuss stuff on discord without putting something here. Here's my ideas refined by @Soza and @Steve:

Improvised Cover -> Actually puts you in the cover created. Here's the reasoning behind this. Implemented in a cache or cosmpiercer where you have to make your own cover (common PvP scenario). Improvised cover is a 3 second balance, then a 2 second balance to take cover. Your opponent depending on class can remove/take cover faster than a Scoundrel who just made it. 5 seconds is an eternity to get back into cover to be able to use TRIGGER or MULTIBOMB which is a big part of our kit. Just something to consider, thanks!
Tripwire -> Sets up the bomb on ALL exits in the room

Tripwire -> hits those not in crew (maybe enemy list?)
Currently this skill takes a 5 second balance to place a bomb on a single exit in a room. This means that it is removed from viability once battle has begun. If the room has even 2 exits this makes chasing down a fleeing opponent very hard for the Scoundrel because you cannot spare 10 seconds to try and catch them OR try and set anything up. Not to mention that HIDE currently costs 6 seconds. Stickybomb is the best option at 3 seconds but has to be done on a reload. Just something to consider.

Affliction Encroachment -> pulls the target from cover upon affliction (POINTBLANK the only way to apply it, when you use PB on someone in cover you leave your own cover, hit them, wait for the affliction to pull them from cover (up to 5 sec), take cover again. (Alternative - have PB work while leaving the scoundrel in cover?) **needs tweaking -- FLAVOR RECOMMENDATION ( P.I.E.C.E. Whip as a skill name and flavor description to replace pointblank. Apparently the community wants this bad *heh*)
Strangle -> First tick isn’t half damage.

1st tick 1% internal, 2nd, 2% internal, 3rd, 4% internal 4th, 8% internal, etc
And cannot crash while being strangled
(NOTE: I believe this to be a bug but the first tick of GUILE STRANGLE is half the damage it should be) Suggestion as follows, first tick isn't half damage. As an alternative have each tick of Strangle do escalating internal system damage (in addition to it's damage) and prevent the target from crashing. 1,1% - 2,2% 3,4% 4,8% etc. Strangle is a trans skill in Guile and I believe was intended to be a FORCEFEED (damage based) alternative. If a target has 75% internal damage you can TRIP, BIND and they will be bound for 8 seconds (this is the forcefeed req btw so we’d be using FF at this point anyway). You can STRANGLE after you get balance back from BIND (3 sec assuming no aff or musc damage) leaving 5 seconds which means that in perfect scenario STRANGLE should only hit a person for 2 ticks before they can interrupt. 3 ticks if they are slow about it. 4 ticks should theoretically be impossible or they can't escape anyway and they should just die. Wetwiring will be curing aff and systems on it's own and many people are currently choosing to WW REGEN upon BIND since it can be done while prone and bound. This way if the person chooses to continue to regenerate instead of interrupting the strangle (scoundrel will lose the internal damage while they regenerate also).

Kneecap -> Scale to internal damage and not muscular

Scale to internal damage and not muscular. Here's the reasoning. Scoundrel currently has 0 way to do muscular damage other than pounding a connecting wetwiring system and a little bleed over into muscular. Our kit is setup to damage MIND, SENSORY, and mainly INTERNAL. This just makes sense and is a REALLY easy fix.

Shoulderroll -> Allow Shoulderroll to be targeted either to Player OR Prop. Most classes just instantly pull you from cover immediately but others like to stay in cover and it forces a scoundrel to fight OUT of cover just to get them out of cover. This would help the scoundrel to match cover with a target to be able to use Fling/Stickybomb/Facesmash again.
Bind -> Currently people can wetwiring regenerate -AFTER- being bound and afflicted with entanglement, which means if we miss on forcefeed or don’t use an interrupt on balance they get in a free regeneration. This means we can’t use skills like Strange/Pummel as the enemy will out regen the damage. The fix would be to make the entanglement affliction prevent wetwiring regeneration.

Jaidyn